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Hearing God

Several years ago when I was in Grad School, I was a graduate assistant. Which means I was basically a slave to the State of Illinois through Sangamon State University (which later became the University of Illinois at Springfield...you know, where the Simpson's live.)I worked for the Career Services department which was nice because I had my own office. Lot's of GA's never got their own office. It paid my tuition and a little bit of beer money basically. I put together websites and organized Career Seminars for various groups of graduating students. Another thing I did was read people's resumes and helped them organize and write better ones so when they graduated, at least that duck would be in the row.

I was a Communication major. Kind of more on the liberal arts side of things as declared majors go. So that department attracted some fairly eclectic sorts of people. Because a Master's Degree in Communication Theory is pretty much one of those, "Would you like fries with that?" kind of degrees. One of those other eclectic sorts of folks was this woman named Virginia. She was in her mid 40's I think. Platinum blonde, Southern Belle type. I think she was from Georgia. She was also a Born Again Christian who let everyone know about it. Nice enough lady but all her instructors had had to sit through her "Testimony" at least once. This kind of made her a misfit in a department full of misfits.

When it was her semester to graduate, like everyone else, she came to my department for help with her resume. She called me up to make an appointment for her resume but first she wanted to give me her testimony. I know I rolled my eyes talking on the phone to her but figured what the heck and gave her an appointment.

The short version goes something like this. Virginia was once a "fallen woman". Partied, slept around, drank demon whiskey and smoked pot. Then one day a friend asked her to drive her to a church for a funeral. Virginia sat in the back row, waiting for her friend and then a strange thing happened. Jesus Christ came in and sat down right next to her in the pew.

Nope, I didn't ask how she knew it was Jesus.

So anyway, she and Jesus strike up this conversation where he suggests that if she truly wanted to be happy, she would stop all the partying and turn her attention to his voice and try to follow in his footsteps. So she did and that made her life turn around. Now, whenever she needs advice on what to do, she just asks Jesus and he tells her. I didn't get the impression that she meant she prayed and something good happened. I think she really meant that she would ask a question out loud and the voice of Jesus would actually answer. Like "What should I fix for dinner tonight?" "Well Loaves and fishes might be a good choice. Maybe a little water or wine."

Did I think she was a nut at the time? I have to admit that I didn't think she was talking to Jesus and wondered if she might have some psychological issues that needed to be addressed.

Recently I've had cause to wonder if she wasn't really talking to Jesus. Back in November, during visit with a trusted medium, one of my guides told me to clear my head and start listening and they would start talking directly to me. And Guess what? They have been. Surprised the hell out of me first time it happened as I'm sure Virginia was surprised when Jesus sat down next to her in church of all places.

I don't hear them all the time because there's usually a lot going on around me. They talk to me a lot when I'm out in the woods. Be nice if they told me where the mushrooms were hiding but it's usually more important stuff like confirming if I'm performing some ritual correctly. Do I think I'm talking to Jesus? No, because Jesus isn't a member of my particular belief system. Do I think I'm talking to God? Well some aspect of God maybe. I'm sure God has more important things to worry about than my spiritual path. But the voices have been helpful at least. They kicked in about the same time my psychic ability increased. So far I can't predict lottery numbers, but I can be fairly certain if I'm going to miss a train or if it's going to be a bad day at work. Useful things like that.

But it makes me wonder about the God of Christianity and of Jesus in particular. People pray so hard for the second coming of Christ that they see his face in freezer doors and clouds and corn flakes. And lots of people believe Jesus had something to do with that. And yet, I knew a woman for whom Jesus apparently put in a real appearance and everyone thinks she's a nut. In fact we pretty much accept it as a sign that someone has slipped off the deep end when they claim to be talking to God.

So if Jesus really does come back, how will people really recognize that it is him? Maybe it was his face in the corn flake or cloud or the freezer door. Maybe that was the way he chose to come back. Something people would easily recognize. And the rest of Christianity laughed and said those people are nuts and kept on waiting. So how will you know?

Wander

Comments

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piscesdreams
May. 2nd, 2008 08:26 pm (UTC)
Well written... I enjoyed this a lot.

Now I am wondering about the voice in my head... it sounds a lot like me and I have always believed it was just me. But maybe it is someone else that sounds like me...
wander
May. 2nd, 2008 08:38 pm (UTC)
As long as it doesn't steer you wrong, I guess it doesn't matter what it sounds like. Mine sound like me too.

W
kimboburly
May. 2nd, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
I love you. This post rocks my socks.

Very many times I think the Today Jesus would be totally ignored. In fact, many people that I feel fall into the same type of footsteps as Jesus are often not-so-famous.

I feel that the [$divine$] talks to us all the time...it is just a choice on whether we want to listen.

Now...if I could just figure out the other stuff that is going on around me, I might have some time to look for Jesus on a cornflake.

*hugs and love* (hope you are feeling better and are strom safe)
wander
May. 5th, 2008 04:46 pm (UTC)
I drove through the storms but mostly it was just water and wind and no fire. The Hopis have a belief that when they started out on the Earth, they had a hole in the top of their heads through which their gods spoke to them. As they gradually came to see themselves as master's of their environment, the holes closed up and now only specially trained medicine people can hear the words and interpret for the people. I'm willing to believe it was the same way for all the peoples of the Earth.

W
chimerae
May. 3rd, 2008 02:00 am (UTC)
Interesting about the Jesus thing.

There are a disproportionate number of empaths and psychics who are not Christian for whom Jesus pops up as their personal guide. They rarely talk about it because their experience of Jesus doesn't dovetail with most Christian traditions and non Christians nearly universally have a prejudice of phobia about people who talk OF Jesus, much less TO Jesus. They usually get direction just like you describe with Virginia.

I'm not one of the people Jesus talks to.
wander
May. 5th, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
Nor am I. Nor was I when I was Catholic which is why I'm no longer Catholic. I suspect Jesus has many identities the world over and the image people accept when they see him now I just something that is recognizable even to those not of the Christian faiths. Through the magic of mass media, we all "know" what Jesus is supposed to look like.

W
blurofego
May. 3rd, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
What a strange thought process... Yes, there are things in this world that guide us and yes, their are people who chose to see them as Jesus or angels or heads of lettuce named Bob, but I do not think The Second Coming has anything to do with spirit guides.

Though, I supposed if enough people wish for it, it could be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
wander
May. 5th, 2008 04:53 pm (UTC)
Strange though process because I am a strange person of course! hehehe. I actually don't believe in a Second coming. I think that the person that Christians recognize as Christ had one coming and the predicted Second Coming is only a revival of Spirituality that will occur when it needs to occur.

W
blurofego
May. 5th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
I like that idea, very much.
wander
May. 5th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
Jesus I think came to inspire a certain group of people in a certain time and place. I truly doubt he could have forseen what others would do in his name centuries later. If he did, you wonder if he wouldn't have opened his mouth in the first place.

W
redsgoddes
May. 3rd, 2008 05:51 am (UTC)
Mom wasn't a religious woman in life, but sometime when you have time, if you would like to hear in detail about what she saw and heard in her last days, I'd be glad to discuss it with you. It's pretty interesting...we weren't alone apparently in those last days.
vainpoppy
May. 5th, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)
i love your icon!
redsgoddes
May. 6th, 2008 03:52 am (UTC)
Thanks! it reflects me...state of confusion LMAO..
wander
May. 5th, 2008 04:53 pm (UTC)
That would be neat to hear when you get some time.

W
redsgoddes
May. 6th, 2008 03:55 am (UTC)
Cool. It would be a nice change to share with someone who would understand. I'm free anytime I'm on line. Whenever the mood strikes you, zip me an email to let me know you are free. I know you work alot.
vainpoppy
May. 5th, 2008 12:56 pm (UTC)
exactly. up until last year i worked with psych patients in a social work setting. i always struggled with the ones who were having "delusions". how do i know what someone sees? slap a diagnosis of schizophrenia on someone and God is the furthest reality from them apparently. to me, though, if there is such a power maybe that power reveals itself to those who need it and are more "open". if someone relates a "miracle" during a baptist revival isn't that socially acceptable? someone who is supposedly crazy who mentions there were angels hanging out on the bus with them gets a thorazine cocktail end of story.


with my particular beliefs, I usually only speak of them in like company, i constantly get asked how I can believe in such things...I seem like such a rationale person. there really is no difference between nature-magik and other religions...we all have a central figure we focus on to find our strength. the things i focus on, though, do not encourage me to start wars, burn women alive, destroy land/animals, etc.

a big part of my system is protection for both myself and those i love. for the longest time, and probably still, andy was convinced i was putting curses on people and boiling newts and frogs. my favorite misconception is that witches are satanists. really it comes down to making use of the energy nature gives in a way that helps and returns to the earth with even more positive energy to continue the cycle.

wander
May. 5th, 2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
We can discuss religions some other time. The big difference I see in Earth based religions as opposed to Christianity is the "magic" in Christianity seems to be largely symbolic. You have the ritual but things don't really seem to happen as a result. As a kid, growing up Catholic i was enamored of the thought that through a specific ritual, the bread and wine were actually become the body and blood of Christ. But when I was an Altar Boy, all those illusions fell away. I prepared the bread and wine for the priest and they looked the same afterwards. Likewise they told us to pray to God and ask for what we really wanted. Later we found out that sometimes you get what you need but only when God thinks you really need it. With Pagan witchcraft I think there is more of an expectation that you will see direct results from the rituals you observe. I know this is the case in my Shamanic rituals. I've been known to see almost instantaneous results.

W
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